Stephen asks former Green Party vice presidential candidate and Native American activist Winona LaDuke what it's like to be an oppressed elitist. Stephen asks Dickson Despommier if growing food in vertical towers is an elitist way to farm.

Stephen asks Neal Katyal if his goal of bringing rights to the prisoners at Guantanamo is his private jihad. Jonathan Zittrain wants to save the good chaos of the Internet and separate it from the bad chaos that will stomp on everything.