Sam Jaeger (Parenthood, The Handmaid's Tale) joins us this week and opens up on how the repetition of denial as an actor has him feeling like his last job will be his last, despite his success in hit shows like Devil in Ohio, Parenthood, and more. Sam talks about how he feels like he's made it haphazardly through life with his ADD and how later in adulthood he faced anxiety and depression. We also get into what it was like directing co stars on Parenthood, his iconic Gene Hackman stories, and how he feels like sloppy seconds for Owen Wilson and Ewan McGregor.

John Oates (Hall & Oates) joins us this week to share his experience in the music industry and the ups and downs that come with being in a Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inducted, multi million record selling duo like Hall & Oates. John opens up on how he was able to pull himself out of the spiral his life was in during the late 80's as he wanted to change his image, was dealing with a divorce, and found out that he was being hoodwinked by Wall Street money managers. We also get into the mental health messaging that John includes in his music, who he was most excited to perform with, and some unfortunate things to happen on stage while he was performing.