Donald Trump threatens to pardon the insurrectionists while potentially inciting new ones, guest host Ben Rhodes talks about his new Atlantic piece that focuses on how to fight Trumpism, Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro talks about his democracy-focused campaign for Governor in what will be one of the most important races of 2022, and a wave of book bans sweeps through red states.

This week on Offline, Jon is joined by writer, professor, and social commentator Roxane Gay for a wide-ranging conversation on consequence culture, writing in the age of the internet, and, of course, Joe Rogan. She explains to Jon why she's been spending less time on Twitter and lays out exactly why she believes people are so awful online.