NBC News has confirmed top Trump officials huddled to strategize about Jeffrey Epstein, directly contradicting Vice President JD Vance's vehement claims that no such meeting was in the works. MSNBC's Ari Melber reports it's a clear sign of how rattled Trump officials are. Plus, rapper Gashi and economist Justin Wolfers join for the latest Fallback installment. 

A judge is accusing President Trump's DOJ of trying to mislead the public with an "illusion" of transparency regarding the Epstein files. Meanwhile, residents of the nation's capital are pushing back against President Trump's attempted power grab as he announces federal takeover of the DC police and deployment of National Guard troops. MSNBC's Jason Johnson is joined by Molly Jong-Fast, Asha Rangappa and others to discuss how this will play out.