Ellen Fanning joins Dr Norman Swan, Jacqui Munro, Malcolm Farr and Sonia Arakkal to discuss the government's four step plan for getting out of the pandemic, cuts to international arrivals and where we go for wellbeing advice.

Julia Baird is joined by Geoffrey Winters, Holly Seale, Jennifer Hewett and Marie Coleman to discuss more COVID cases among aged care workers, the PM's approval rating drop plus more revelations about Crown Casino.