Kathryn Robinson and the panel discuss what 'budget repair' looks like, as well as the government's decision to increase offshore processing, new rules for gambling ads, plus Taylor Swift's domination of the music charts.

Kathryn Robinson is joined by Georgia Wilkins, Jacqui Munro, Dr Norman Swan and Rachael Jacobs to discuss another COVID wave in the third year of the pandemic, and why Australians are setting up and ruling their own nations.