Ellen Fanning is joined by Jioji Ravulo, Nicki Hutley, Ian Kemish and Suelette Dreyfus to discuss the impact of Optus' catastrophic network failure, plus why are kids increasingly refusing to go to school?

Casey Briggs is joined by Angela Vithoulkas, Harry Moffitt, Jamila Rizvi and Adrian Piccoli to discuss the fallout of Optus' catastrophic network failure, plus Queensland's plan for a four-day day school week.