What does Gladys Berejiklian's resignation mean for NSW's pandemic planning? We examine the reasons behind a surge of COVID cases in Victoria. Plus how will Australians cope once government disaster payments are wound back?

What's the cost of coming out of lockdown? Victoria and the ACT are about to enjoy new freedoms and NSW is set to ease restrictions further. Jeremy Fernandez speaks with economist Nicki Hutley and epidemiologist Tony Blakely.