What can Australia learn from other countries which have opened up? Jeremy Fernandez speaks with public health and infectious diseases experts from Britain and Singapore to hear how those nations are dealing with an increased COVID caseload. Plus Norman Swan joins us to discuss the challenges ahead for Australia.

What does travel look like going forward? We look at what to expect and what you need to consider before you head off. Plus with more international visitors to Australia, how will that impact the number of COVID cases here.