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Senators Chris Van Hollen and Tammy Baldwin discuss plans being floated in Congress to fight the Trump-Musk dismantling of the federal government; fmr. Education Secretary Arne Duncan explains what's at stake for America's children if the Department of Education is shut down; Russian opposition politician Vladimir Kara-Murza offers a warning about what happens when big tech coddles dictators; Imani Perry and Errin Haines discuss why eviscerating the civil service could hit the Black community hardest.