Join Barrie Cassidy for a new series discussing Leadership. He meets captain of the Bawley Point Rural Fire Brigade Charlie Magnuson, who steered his team through the recent fire season going above and beyond in the crisis.

Sally Scales has been described as feisty, tough and determined. The youngest person elected Chair of the APY Lands Executive Board talks to Barrie about being raised by strong leaders, and becoming the voice of her elders.